Nowa strona o WSZYSTKICH GOTHIC MODS

[Aeternitas]

UPDATE

I wanted to say, I moved my website to another host. Please follow the new links.
(Chciałem powiedzieć, przeniosłem moją stronę do innego hosta. Prosimy stosować się do nowych połączeń.)

See my web site (Zobacz moją stronę): http://darkforests.info/.

Gothic I Section

Gothic II Section

Gothic III Section

[Aeternitas]

UPDATE

I wanted to say, I moved my website to another host. Please follow the new links. There is already 324 mods present.
(Chciałem powiedzieć, przeniosłem moją stronę do innego hosta. Prosimy stosować się do nowych połączeń. Istnieje już 324 mods)

See my web site (Zobacz moją stronę): http://darkforests.info/.

Gothic I Section

Gothic II Section

Gothic III Section

[Aeternitas]

UPDATE

I've changed the design of my website http://darkforests.info about all Gothic mods (>330!!!). What do you say?

Zmieniłem design mojej stronie http://darkforests.info o wszystkich modów (>330!!!) do Gothicu. Co mówisz?

[inż. Avallach]

I'm sorry, but it is still ugly, design looks just like from '90s. You have only changed used images/backgrounds, but style remained the same. It is very chaotic and unclear, with messed up proportions and too small margins between divs.

[Aeternitas]

I#msg1046813m sorry, but it is still ugly, design looks just like from #msg104681390s. You have only changed used images/backgrounds, but style remained the same. It is very chaotic and unclear, with messed up proportions and too small margins between divs.

I changed lot of things, but you don#msg1046813t see everything. What I don#msg1046813t understand is why you say it#msg1046813s chaotic. I think my site is very clear to go through. I see no chaos. Maybe you should post link to a site which is of similar subject and it#msg1046813s ideal, for I don#msg1046813t understand what is wrong.

[Dark]

I changed lot of things, but you don#msg1046821t see everything. What I don#msg1046821t understand is why you say it#msg1046821s chaotic. I think my site is very clear to go through. I see no chaos. Maybe you should post link to a site which is of similar subject and it#msg1046821s ideal, for I don#msg1046821t understand what is wrong.

[Caesum]

What I don#msg1046821t understand is why you say it#msg1046821s chaotic. I think my site is very clear to go through. I see no chaos.

Of course you think your site is clear. You know why? Because it is you who made it. For me it#msg1046821s design is extremely chaotic and harmful to the eye. I can see awful, enlarged gifs, mismatched images and wrong proportions. I have no idea how people can use it and FIND anything there, but if they can, then I#msg1046821m really shocked. Avallach is completely right, your site looks like if it was taken directly from the good ol#msg1046821 90#msg1046821s. Unfortunately, it isn#msg1046821t good. Have you ever seen any other game related site on the internet? If not, then just look at the Steam Workshop page, any Nexus site or even our Polish gothicmods.info site. THESE are non-chaotic sites to look at and use, especially the first one in my opinion. If you still can#msg1046821t see anything wrong about your site though, then maybe it#msg1046821s about time to find someone else to do the graphics work for you.

[Aeternitas]

What I don#msg1047097t understand is why you say it#msg1047097s chaotic. I think my site is very clear to go through. I see no chaos.

Of course you think your site is clear. You know why? Because it is you who made it. For me it#msg1047097s design is extremely chaotic and harmful to the eye. I can see awful, enlarged gifs, mismatched images and wrong proportions. I have no idea how people can use it and FIND anything there, but if they can, then I#msg1047097m really shocked. Avallach is completely right, your site looks like if it was taken directly from the good ol#msg1047097 90#msg1047097s. Unfortunately, it isn#msg1047097t good. Have you ever seen any other game related site on the internet? If not, then just look at the Steam Workshop page, any Nexus site or even our Polish gothicmods.info site. THESE are non-chaotic sites to look at and use, especially the first one in my opinion. If you still can#msg1047097t see anything wrong about your site though, then maybe it#msg1047097s about time to find someone else to do the graphics work for you.

Maybe I don#msg1047097t get it, but I see nothing difficult to browse through left menu to choose the chapter you want, and then in this chapter to choose the article you want from the list. That#msg1047097s all the difficulty. gothicmods.info is similar.

[Wowoz]

You don't see diffrent between gothicmods.info and your site?

[Aeternitas]

You don#msg1047183t see diffrent between gothicmods.info and your site?

Yes, there#msg1047183s lot of difference, but the structure is very the same. My site has only more functionality, more mods, and more info.

[Ezzam]

In my opinion, you should really simplify your site and have somebody else work on the graphics. Main page looks afwul due to enlarged images. Now, let's compare your site to gothicmods.info.

News section:

This is just painful to look at. Notice the stretched image.


News are grouped into 2 sections. Both of them take little space, so it's easy to browse and looks well.

Mod list:

Every mod takes much space here, so given the large number of them, it's a pain to browse. In addition, they're not grouped alphabetically.


Here's how it should be done: this list takes little space, and is easy to browse due to alphabetical sorting.

Mod description:

That's not that bad as other sections of your site, though images should take a bit less space.


There's more information about this specific mod (for instance difficulty), and it takes less space than on your site.

That comparison should help you at improving your site, as it really needs improvement.

[Aeternitas]

In my opinion, you should really simplify your site and have somebody else work on the graphics. Main page looks afwul due to enlarged images. Now, let#msg1047187s compare your site to gothicmods.info.

News section:

This is just painful to look at. Notice the stretched image.


News are grouped into 2 sections. Both of them take little space, so it#msg1047187s easy to browse and looks well.

Mod list:

Every mod takes much space here, so given the large number of them, it#msg1047187s a pain to browse. In addition, they#msg1047187re not grouped alphabetically.


Here#msg1047187s how it should be done: this list takes little space, and is easy to browse due to alphabetical sorting.

Mod description:

That#msg1047187s not that bad as other sections of your site, though images should take a bit less space.


There#msg1047187s more information about this specific mod (for instance difficulty), and it takes less space than on your site.

That comparison should help you at improving your site, as it really needs improvement.

The thing about the News section is a bug. I will correct it. For some time I haven#msg1047187t tested it in Firefox (I use only Chrome).

The thing about the alphabetical order: my list goes on the date of issuing the first version. It is discutable what#msg1047187s better. The problem is also I have articles i 6 (!) languages, so the list is much more complicated. I added into the list also about the greatness of the mod, about audio dubbing, about language of the mod, some picture of the mod. Just a pure list of names like at gothicmods.info makes no sense. You should be able to see some features before you choose an article. You really thing from a pure list of 200 names you would choose your mod? I was asked to make some search system, but it is impossible at this moment and the style of programming (I#msg1047187ve never expected to have 330+ mods on my site - I had no idea there is so much mods and I think no one of you as well).

The thing about the article of a mod. Yes, GM.info offers the difficulty attribute, but I find such a attribute too relative. Also the pictures are the most important info about the mod, so they have lot of space.

There is also the difference between my site and gothicmods.info. GM.info is pure PHP, my site is ONLY HTML, CSS and Javascript. So I sometimes wonder why GM.info offers only so little. If I use PHP you would see much more. But such a big reorganization is too much time-demanding at this very moment.

I must say I have problems with testing. I have no possibility to watch my site at higher resolution than 1280xN, so to correct some bugs which comes at resolution 1600x1200 or so is very difficult.

What I still don#msg1047187t understand why some people say my site is like from 90#msg1047187s. And GM.info not? Where is the difference what makes GM.info so modern?

I think your post is the first constructive post and I thank you for it. I would need more like it. Just to say your site is ugly make no sense and no help.

[Ezzam]

I added into the list also about the greatness of the mod, about audio dubbing, about language of the mod, some picture of the mod. Just a pure list of names like at gothicmods.info makes no sense. You should be able to see some features before you choose an article.

I think that most people read some information about a specific mod before deciding to play it. Info you specified is present at mod page at gothicmods.info, and i think that's perfectly fine.

The thing about the alphabetical order: my list goes on the date of issuing the first version. It is discutable what's better.

If i want to find and download, for example, mod named XYZ, then with alphabetical ordering i just look for it at the end of the list. I don't know the mod's release date, so with current ordering i would be forced to browse the whole list mod by mod until i find this one i'm looking for.

What I still don't understand why some people say my site is like from 90's. And GM.info not? Where is the difference what makes GM.info so modern?

The difference is that gothicmods.info is minimalistic in terms of design, while still having useful features.

[Aeternitas]

I added into the list also about the greatness of the mod, about audio dubbing, about language of the mod, some picture of the mod. Just a pure list of names like at gothicmods.info makes no sense. You should be able to see some features before you choose an article.

I think that most people read some information about a specific mod before deciding to play it. Info you specified is present at mod page at gothicmods.info, and i think that#msgote author=Ezzams perfectly fine.

I#msgote author=Ezzamm not sure I understand what you mean.

The thing about the alphabetical order: my list goes on the date of issuing the first version. It is discutable what#msgote author=Ezzams better.

If i want to find and download, for example, mod named XYZ, then with alphabetical ordering i just look for it at the end of the list. I don#msgote author=Ezzamt know the mod#msgote author=Ezzams release date, so with current ordering i would be forced to browse the whole list mod by mod until i find this one i#msgote author=Ezzamm looking for.

In a way you#msgote author=Ezzamre right, in a way you#msgote author=Ezzamre wrong. If you wanna some specific mod, than yes, the alphabetical order would be better. But all the same you can use the browser research function and get it immediately. But let assume that most people just go through the list and look for mods. Then they go again looking for newer mods, added in a recent times. For casual surfer is better the alphabetical order, but there#msgote author=Ezzams the solution even more comfortable. For a surfer who returns often is better my system, for he#msgote author=Ezzams curious about the changes.

What I still don#msgote author=Ezzamt understand why some people say my site is like from 90#msgote author=Ezzams. And GM.info not? Where is the difference what makes GM.info so modern?

The difference is that gothicmods.info is minimalistic in terms of design, while still having useful features.

I might also make the letters smaller, make the pictures smaller and so one. I don#msgote author=Ezzamt think it#msgote author=Ezzams the thing what makes the page modern. Even so I might do it, but such a change is very big, and I don#msgote author=Ezzamt have so much time.

Yes there are some things I might build in (for example the thing with the news smaller and bigger, but using just Javascript makes it very difficult to build in)

I corrected the bug. You should reload the page two-times, so all the files reload.

[Ezzam]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

The information you provide on mod list is available on gothicmods.info as well, although in another place.

In a way you're right, in a way you're wrong. If you wanna some specific mod, than yes, the alphabetical order would be better. But all the same you can use the browser research function and get it immediately. But let assume that most people just go through the list and look for mods. Then they go again looking for newer mods, added in a recent times. For casual surfer is better the alphabetical order, but there's the solution even more comfortable. For a surfer who returns often is better my system, for he's curious about the changes.

That's why splitting news section in two is a good idea - you maintain a mod list in alphabetical order, but keep a number of newest mods in a separate news section column.

Edit:

I might also make the letters smaller, make the pictures smaller and so one. I don't think it's the thing what makes the page modern. Even so I might do it, but such a change is very big, and I don't have so much time.

I don't really know how to decribe layout problems properly, if you know any webdesigner, ask them for their opinion.

[Aeternitas]

I#msgote author=Ezzamm not sure I understand what you mean.

The information you provide on mod list is available on gothicmods.info as well, although in another place.

Now I understand. I have a rich list, so you may watch the list and decide. GM.info has a simple names list, so you must try every name to decide. I find the GM.info list very bad in this way. Just to look at 200 names, can you imagine it?

In a way you#msgote author=Ezzamre right, in a way you#msgote author=Ezzamre wrong. If you wanna some specific mod, than yes, the alphabetical order would be better. But all the same you can use the browser research function and get it immediately. But let assume that most people just go through the list and look for mods. Then they go again looking for newer mods, added in a recent times. For casual surfer is better the alphabetical order, but there#msgote author=Ezzams the solution even more comfortable. For a surfer who returns often is better my system, for he#msgote author=Ezzams curious about the changes.

That#msgote author=Ezzams why splitting news section in two is a good idea - you maintain a mod list in alphabetical order, but keep a number of newest mods in a separate news section column.

Yes, I might do something about putting there two lists etc, but not now. It takes lot of work.

I might also make the letters smaller, make the pictures smaller and so one. I don#msgote author=Ezzamt think it#msgote author=Ezzams the thing what makes the page modern. Even so I might do it, but such a change is very big, and I don#msgote author=Ezzamt have so much time.

I don#msgote author=Ezzamt really know how to decribe layout problems properly, if you know any webdesigner, ask them for their opinion.

At this moment I make only smaller changes. I#msgote author=Ezzamd rather concentrate on my own mod Thanatos to be done. The site is working good, yes, it might be better, there might be lot of things I might do about, but everything takes lot of time. When I#msgote author=Ezzamm done with Thanatos I might think about it. But even so, if you know something what doesn#msgote author=Ezzamt take much time (or if you find some bug) and you think it would be a good change, I#msgote author=Ezzamm listening.

[Aeternitas]

UPDATE

Ja stworzył oficjalne forum The Dark Forests Webu. Specjalizujemy się nie tylko na Gotyku, ale również od innych gier, i wiele innych rzeczy. Spójrz.

Oferujemy również własne guildes za darmo dla modding lub grup fanart, jeśli są aktywne.

Przejdź na forum tutaj.


UPDATE

I created the official forum of The Dark Forests Web. We specialize not only on Gothic, but also on other games, and many other things. Take a look.

We also offer own guildes for free for modding or fanart groups, if they are active.

Go for the forum here.